[MiQP-Mail] ARPS ?

[Fredric Moses]

Well HEAVY-1 will be running around the state this saturday as it runs around for months.. It's hard wired into my car and is built into my navigation setup...  if it invalidates me.. o well.....    It is spotting data though...  Sats in view... Temp.... Voltage.... :)
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Fredric Moses - W8FSM - WQOG498
fred at moses.bz




On Apr 15, 2013, at 9:59 PM, Randy Love <wf5x at interserv.com> wrote:

> For the most part, APRS users that are contesting aren't updating the status message to give band and mode, therefore the self-reporting aspect would be obvious if it were happening. Now, APRS isn't linked into the DX cluster network, which is the 'normal' definition of self-spotting. The beacons are mostly 'set it and forget it' affairs. So, sending APRS beacons that say 'MiQP mobile' might actually stir up a little interest during the event without concern that the mobile is getting an unfair advantage as long as band/mode information is not sent as part of the beacon. Even if the band/mode information were, it wouldn't make it to the DX cluster network without someone posting it over there.
> 
> Here's the rub. I normally run APRS all the time. If that is deemed 'self-spotting' by the committee, even if I'm not giving band/mode information, then I'd have to turn it off if I'm mobile on a contest. I run APRS more as a peace-of-mind exercise for my wife and family, or nosey club members. APRS as a means of showing my location shouldn't be considered self-spotting if the exact band/mode isn't in the beacon information. My reasoning there is that you still have to hunt to find where the mobile is on the bands.
> 
> Randy
> WF5X
> avid APRS user and MiQP fan. :)
> 
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless Razr Maxx with Gmail Tap interface :)
> 
> 
> K9TM <k9tm at buckeye-express.com> wrote:
> 
> Actually for a mobile in MiQP there is little difference between ARPS and self-spotting on packet.
> 
> Without specific verbiage in the rules one can guess what the answer is based on other MiQP rules... since MiQP doesn't allow single-ops to use packet it seems that it would be out for mobile-solo.  Since mobile also has multi-op, it seems that mobile multi-ops could use packet.  However even with packet use, it is not permitted to self-spot.
> 
> The question becomes is ARPS seen as self-spotting?
> 
> If a comment in ARPS says freq/band-mode then it would be easy to see it as same as self-spotting on packet.  Without this freq/band-mode info, it is an indication of location and based on time of day we basically know what band a mobile in Mi is likely going to be on.
> 
> Seems we need the MiQP committee to weigh in on the official answer.
> 
> 73, Tim K9TM
> 
> On Apr 15, 2013, at 7:50 PM, Love, Randy wrote:
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> You aren't using it to make contacts, so I don't see why not.
> 
> Randy
> WF5X
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> Jimk8mr at aol.com wrote:
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> Is use of ARPS permitted for mobile operations? 
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> 73  -  Jim   K8MR
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