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    <font size="+1"><font face="Times New Roman">I personally we should
        move in<font size="+1">to the 1980's and allow <font size="+1">APRS
            and <font size="+1">use of spotting networks.  <font
                size="+1">Many State QSO Parties, Ohio, Minnesota,
                Georgia, North Dakota (restricts self spotting, but no
                other mention <font size="+1">for<font size="+1"> or
                    against us<font size="+1">e of spotting networks),
                      South Dakota makes no mention at<font size="+1">
                        all of spotting networks, Nebraska similarly<font
                          size="+1"> - no mention.<br>
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                          <font size="+1"><font size="+1">This can't
                              happen<font size="+1"> this year, of
                                course, but some "reasoning" should
                                occur with whoever actually determines
                                the rules for the MiQP, and I suggest we
                                "get with ne<font size="+1">w
                                  technology."   <font size="+1">Shucks,
                                    Minnesota encourages APRS, others
                                    don't mention it either way.  I
                                    haven't <font size="+1">surveyed
                                      every <font size="+1">State QP
                                        rules, but quite a few around us
                                        allow <font size="+1">spotting
                                          networks<font size="+1">,<font
                                              size="+1"> a<font
                                                size="+1">s a way to <font
                                                  size="+1">encourage
                                                  activity.</font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font><br>
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                          'Nuff sed for<font size="+1"> now.  <font
                              size="+1">But, lettuce not way till a week
                              before MiQP 2014 before we <font
                                size="+1">have real con<font size="+1">sideration
                                  of rule changes<font size="+1"> in
                                    this area.<br>
                                    <br>
                                    <font size="+1">72/73 de n8xx Hg<br>
                                      <font size="+1">QRP >99.44<font
                                          size="+1">% of the time<br>
                                          <font size="+1">Using <font
                                              size="+1">K6J<font
                                                size="+1">SS/IONI during
                                                MiQP 2013</font></font></font><br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/15/2013 9:24 PM, K9TM wrote:<br>
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      cite="mid:B876D209-DC6E-49B3-9515-DC1AE159ACFB@buckeye-express.com"
      type="cite">Actually for a mobile in MiQP there is little
      difference between ARPS and self-spotting on packet.
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      <div>Without specific verbiage in the rules one can guess what the
        answer is based on other MiQP rules... since MiQP doesn't allow
        single-ops to use packet it seems that it would be out for
        mobile-solo.  Since mobile also has multi-op, it seems that
        mobile multi-ops could use packet.  However even with packet
        use, it is not permitted to self-spot.</div>
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      <div>The question becomes is ARPS seen as self-spotting?</div>
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      <div>If a comment in ARPS says freq/band-mode then it would be
        easy to see it as same as self-spotting on packet.  Without this
        freq/band-mode info, it is an indication of location and based
        on time of day we basically know what band a mobile in Mi is
        likely going to be on.</div>
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      <div>Seems we need the MiQP committee to weigh in on the official
        answer.</div>
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      <div>73, Tim K9TM</div>
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          <div>On Apr 15, 2013, at 7:50 PM, Love, Randy wrote:</div>
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              <div>You aren't using it to make contacts, so I don't see
                why not.</div>
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              <div>Randy</div>
              <div>WF5X</div>
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            <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Jimk8mr@aol.com">Jimk8mr@aol.com</a>
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                <div>Is use of ARPS permitted for mobile operations?  </div>
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                <div>73  -  Jim   K8MR</div>
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